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MT. FUJI-- WHERE TEENS CONSPIRE TO KILL THEMSELVES. OR NOT
« on: October 29, 2009, 01:05:34 pm »
http://usagiyjay.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/bosque-de-aokigahara/

I can't understand the text since it is written in Spanish. However, the pictures showed me what's the real story in Aokigahara AKA the Suicide Woods of Mt. Fuji.

This is so sad... and creepy at the same time :( We should live life no matter what. Right?

To our fellow teentalkers who can speak Spanish, please help us understand this article better.


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Re: MT. FUJI-- WHERE TEENS CONSPIRE TO KILL THEMSELVES. OR NOT
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 08:23:21 pm »
Suicide Woods. Scares me but makes me want to explore that place. Poor kids. They don't know how to count their blessings.
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Re: MT. FUJI-- WHERE TEENS CONSPIRE TO KILL THEMSELVES. OR NOT
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 08:45:53 pm »



TRANSLATION TO THE BLOG:





Forest of AokigaharaUno of the but impressive places that has Japan, is the mount Fuji, a mountain of 3776 meters, considered sacred since the antiguedad, quisas know it or they heard it to mention for being is the highest peak of the island of Honshu and of every Japan, therefore is one of the places but visited by the tourists. 



It is classified to the mount Fuji as an active volcano, but with little risk of eruption.

But it interezante in this case, is not the mountain! if does not what happen to the feet of her, in the forest of Aokigahara…also acquaintance as Jyukai (Sea of Arboles), occupies but of 3.000 hectares and is elected by decenas of persons to be removed the life. 

Already in the Japan feudal of the century XIX, when tapeworm place a hambruna the families but poor they approached the forest to abandon and to leave to die to the children and older persons that could not feed.  In last century, the passed away writer Seich?  Matsumoto published a novel, subsequently carried to the television, titled Kuroi Jukai (The black sea of arboles), in which one of the personages himself adentraba in Aokigahara to die.  More recently, a book of Tsurumi Wataru titled Kanzen Jisatsu Manyuaru (The Complete Manual of the Suicide, 1993), that has sold 1?3 millions of copies in that country, recommended it like the perfect place to be removed the life.  In the year 2004, the director Takimoto Tomoyuki rolled the movie Ki not Umi, in which counted the history of four persons that decided suicidarse in this forest. 

In 1971 they began to be organized beaten to seek the mortal remainders of the suicidas.  Annually, a team of firemen and police that surpasses the 300 persons themselves adentra in Aokigahara to retire the corpses that have not been found along the year by the visitors and guards forestales.  Ademas, a van of the police patrol the alrededores of the forest daily in search of possible suicidas. 

The authorities placed placards in the forest with the following text: “A moment, please.  The life is a precious gift that their parents they gave it.  Do not keep its alone worries for you, seek aid”. 

In 1998 I exceed for first time the figure of the 30.000 suicidas in Japan.  Last year (2007) they were removed the life 33.093 persons, having reached in the year 2003 the figure but high: 34.427.  One must say, nevertheless, that according to the last data of the OMS Japan occupies the tenth world position as for rate of suicides by each 100.000 inhabitants, heading the classification, by this order, Lituania, Bielorrusia and Russia. 

Many persons go to Aokigahara by being a solitary place.  In the 2002 78 bodies were found, exceeding the record of 1998 that was of 73.  It is for this that the roads are found marked with plastic tape that are for the hunt “annual of bodies”, where voluntary themselves adentran to seek the corpses of the suicidas.  The tape never is removed for which go accumulating wastes that does nobody join. 

Also it has said that the quantity of bodies found owes to that the magnetic deposits of iron that there are inside the forest, do that the compasses and GPSs to stop functioning, causing that the travelers be lost and dwell.  A myth that clearly is false when in the photos the diverse methods can be seen that utilize the persons for suicidarse. 






oh ghad!! super natakot ako sa pictures .. ang hirap isipin na may mga taong kayang pahirapan and worse patayin ang sarili nila ng ganun ..  :-X

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Re: MT. FUJI-- WHERE TEENS CONSPIRE TO KILL THEMSELVES. OR NOT
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 08:52:18 pm »
goodness, that's so frustrating.

It's no surprise that it's in Japan since it has a high suicide rate.

But, di ko alam na ganito pala ka-grabe yun. :(
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009, 02:49:54 pm »
I am in shock. Grabe yung mga pictures. Parang hindi kapanipaniwala.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 02:56:32 pm »
I am in shock. Grabe yung mga pictures. Parang hindi kapanipaniwala.

oo nga eh .. super nakakatakot!

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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2009, 03:14:03 pm »
bakit nga ba mataas masyado ang suicidal rate sa Japan?

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2009, 04:00:48 pm »
whoa! kadiri yung isang pic dun na may na-aagnas na corpse.

ugh.

bakit nga ba mataas masyado ang suicidal rate sa Japan?

kase for them it's better to die than to be dishonored. well, their culture approves of that anyway, chaka yun nga, sa kahirapan din ng buhay.

pero i dont think poverty talaga yung rason eh. i think they lost to the will to live at the same time they lost their job,or their gf, or when they failed their exam.

so we can say hopelessess is the answer.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2009, 06:44:04 pm »
Aww. That's sad. Wanting to die than to be dishonored. They should've just did something to redeem themselves.

It's sad how hopelessness makes people want to just end it there. Hay.

I guess this can attest that Japanese are among the most emotional when it comes to losses.

EDIT:

Okay. So there was a book behind this issue, Wataru Tsurumui's bestselling book The Complete Manual of Suicide. I just researched about it and it makes me want to go and look for this book. Para naman we can see what made these people decide to die.

I read that people who committed suicide in these woods were even seen holding Wataru Tsurumui's book in their hands as they die. Realli interesting, but sad at the same time.

However, even in these haunted woods, regular humans still have a job to do. Forestry workers rotate in and out of shifts at a station building in Aokigahara, and occasionally they will come upon unfortunate bodies in various states of decomposition, usually hanging from trees or partially eaten by animals.
Source: http://www.seekjapan.jp/article-1/767/The+Suicide+Woods+of+Mt.+Fuji
« Last Edit: October 30, 2009, 06:52:36 pm by chibiporkchop »
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2009, 09:13:59 pm »
Wanting to die than to be dishonored.

^^They have this Code of Bushido

In Japan, crime incidents are very rare simply because of this. They have this pride (I admire them for that, kaso parang nasobrahan ata sila) and they'd rather die than live in disgrace.

Interesting din yung The Complete Manual of Suicide. Kaso parang nakakatakot kasi baka may brainwashing something dun.  ::)
« Last Edit: October 30, 2009, 10:30:03 pm by lassie »
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2009, 09:47:16 pm »
Grabe.  :o
Grabe talaga. Nakaatakot yung pictures and
yung ginagawa nila.  :'(
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2009, 07:22:02 pm »
^^They have this Code of Bushido

In Japan, crime incidents are very rare simply because of this. They have this pride (I admire them for that, kaso parang nasobrahan ata sila) and they'd rather die than live in disgrace.

Interesting din yung The Complete Manual of Suicide. Kaso parang nakakatakot kasi baka may brainwashing something dun.  ::)
I want to read it. Hindi naman siguro ako mabbrainwash ng isang libro. I'd put my thoughts first into thinking na "I'm doing this for research" or something like that. Haha. It's really interesting na in such a beautiful place, may ganitong part din pala. It's very tragic.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2009, 08:00:12 pm »
I guess the Japanese people have this high value for morality.

^^They have this Code of Bushido

In Japan, crime incidents are very rare simply because of this. They have this pride (I admire them for that, kaso parang nasobrahan ata sila) and they'd rather die than live in disgrace.


Samurais during the Feudalism period started this norm. Nakakalungkot lang dahil until now, dala-dala pa rin ng mga Japanese ang pagiging suicidal  :(

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2009, 09:02:46 pm »
I think the root of the problem goes even deeper. Blame it on a very materialistic society.

Okay, people who kill themselves, who are they? They're the ones who failed in life - be it in terms of finances or academics or, uh, sex.

Can human life be equal to just money? Or good grades? At the very radical level, is human life worth as far as success is concerned?

The sad truth is, and I am not ashamed to say this, the sad truth is that when a society becomes so materialistc due to high technology and industrialization, there rises a tendency to make human life cheap.

This is the only aspect of Marxism which I agree with Marx himself, me being a Roman Catholic and all.


Now, what's the answer? Is it a going-back-to-the-basics? A nostalgic longing for the 'good ole days' of sunday blues and 1950's esque diner lifestyle? No.

The march of history goes on. Technology can't be stopped. But this development in technology shoul also be accompanied by the development of the human spirit.

You take away the human spirit or the esence which makes us human, then everything goes down. Even if you literally have all the wealth of the world but you don't have the will to live which is only made possible by the tenacity of the Spirit, you'll die.

Indeed, "Man does not live on bread alone" (Luke 4:4)
« Last Edit: October 31, 2009, 09:04:46 pm by pach »
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Re: MT. FUJI-- WHERE TEENS CONSPIRE TO KILL THEMSELVES. OR NOT
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2009, 09:41:02 pm »
i had a friend who used to live here then migrated to Japan. most of the teens there daw have problems regarding high pressure from their parents, school. i think the Code of Bushido is, well, really old fashioned. it's really not applicable in a world full of temptations.

 

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