Kuya milliardo, ayaw namin makipagtalo sa inio. All we need here is RESPECT.
Ngayon, ano ang gusto mo palabasin? Na mali ang paniniwala ng Chirstians because of Luther at tama kayong mga Orthodox? ganun ba?
Your guess is as good as mine.
That is why I ask you make a comparative analysis of your church's beliefs and see if it stacks up to early Christian belief, as well as compare it with what Luther taught.
Well, you can't judge us. Tatanungin kita, are you 100% sure na tama ung mga paniniwala mo?
The basis has always been simple: what did early Christianity believed in? If Protestantism's claim is true, then that could be verified by comparing it with early Christianity.
You keep on criticizing our faith kasi e. You lack RESPECT; youre being too judgemental on our faith.
Dear, this is simply called Apologetics. You're not used to such things. Our discussion here is not as volatile as it is in other religious forums; try going to such forums and you'll see much, much more complex issues and discussions which can reach to 20 or more pages per thread. Now, respect you say? If we are to go by this notion, where is the
respect Catholics get from Evangelicals? You are, and forgive me for being harsh here, hypocrites for asking for respect when your own kind have little respect for others, particularly Catholics. Yet when the going gets hot, you ask for
respect? Why, can't answer the issues thrown here?
Remember, in the end, wala din sa religion yan.
Eto gasgas na linya na; I have often said if wala sa religion yan, then can you honestly say okay lang maging Muslim, since wala naman pala sa religion ito e.
O, di ba hindi? E bakit hindi okay maging Muslim? Dahil hindi sila
Christian?
E di lumalabas tungkol pala sa religion ito.
Like I said, you guys love circular arguments.
Pero please open your heart about our opinions and have some respect.
Sorry, dear, I don't accept what is not right. I am not here to please you people. The same way your pastors lambast and attack the ancient Church and dismiss early Christianity with their "Bible-only" diatribes. In short, if you want to earn respect, you must first know what it means. What, you want Catholics and Orthodox to kow-tow to each and every wrong thing you will spout here? Yan ang hirap e--pag maka atake kayo, you will call it "freedom of expression", pero pag kayo na ang inaatake at di kayo makasagot, sasabihin ninyo "walang respect ang tao".
Now, I am just saying things as it is--I am simply being honest. 8 years of online Apologetics and there's little respect I got from Evangelicals, even if you accord them every respect you could give. And did I judge you guys? No--I have not even consigned you to the very depths of hell. But if you will read Evangelicals, you will get these things: Catholics are bound for hell; the Catholic Church is from Satan; the Catholic Church is a false church. Do you think that's respect? If you hear your pastors say those things, or even say, "Catholics are wrong for doing this and this..." Why not then stand up, and say for everyone to hear in your congregation, "Sir, we should not do that; we must respect Catholics and their beliefs." Then I will accord you the respect you deserve. Then you will earn my respect. But for as long as you give your
assent and sit
[silently while your pastor makes that anti-Catholic (or anti-Orthodox) diatribe, then I will not be silent here, either. But even if you do such a thing, I have to say that there's an ancient truth out there that you guys need to know, and if it sounds like you're being attacked, then at least it is making you pause and make a second look at what you believe.
And yes, welcome to Apologetics.
Now, if you will go and even browse at Catholic Answers:
http://forums.catholic.com/ you will see how Apologetics is, and yes, what we're doing here is less than what is happening there. Again, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Simple lang naman yan. If you don't have the stomach for Apologetics, then you are welcome to simply not participate. But if you think you can keep up with the discussions, then good for you. As we always say in Apologetics, walang pikunan. Matindi ang Apologetics, and it's not for the faint-hearted. You will do much research, analysis, comparisons, reflections, prayer. It will challenge your faith at some point. Nanggaling na ako dyan. There are points which are hard to refute, and at such times you will go through self-doubt. But if you can analyze very well and are confident with your faith, then you won't be afraid of such things. Now, as I can see here, I see that it is riling you up. That is good--you are beginning to be critical. Like I said, bone up on history, especially early Christianity. It is a journey that will be an adventure, and I guarantee you it will surprise you.
